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The following is an article by Joseph Powell that shares his thoughts on the cause of dilated cardiomyopathy in dogs. With his permission, this article was shared on Keep the Tail Wagging and has been reviewed/approved by a holistic veterinarian. If you have an issue with the thoughts in this article, Mr. Powell shares his email address at the end and welcomes further discussion. This post is an Opinion Piece not meant to diagnose or treat heart issues in dogs or humans.
When Joseph Powell approached me about posting his thoughts on DCM, I was excited because, after our Facebook Live (video is below), I felt like I finally understood what was happening- basically, no one knows what's happening. There are many reasons dogs are being diagnosed with DCM, and Joseph shares his theories on one possible cause. Is he right? I don't know. But it does make sense, and it inspires me to continue educating myself because despite being a raw feeder, I know my dogs aren't immune to a future DCM diagnosis.
So, after reading, I'd love to know your thoughts. Do you agree? Disagree? And if you think Joe has missed the point, please explain because we're here to learn. Thanks!
2024 Update: A class action lawsuit was filed alleging fraud with the DCM reports, naming Hill's Pet Nutrition, Dr Lisa Freeman, Dr. Darcy Adin, Dr. Joshua Stern (who commented on this article), and Dr. John Rush.
Okay, OK, I’m sorry. That is not a fun title, but we need to talk about this. It’s time to say the emperor has no clothes. We are trying to pin Dilated Cardiomyopathy (DCM) on just about anything that won’t cost pet food manufacturers any moola, money, cash, or Benjamins. This world revolves around money, and we can trace almost all motivation back to the almighty dollar.
Find a New Villian
Big Pet Food is taking a page directly out of Big Tabacco’s playbook. There are a few articles (so-called “studies”) out there that claim to point to a correlation between Boutique, Exotic, or Grain-Free (BEG) pet foods and DCM. Let’s be clear, though: no relationship exists! No real scientific evidence exists for their claims—none, zip, nada.
These types of studies are called gray studies. They’re usually sponsored by the folks making the cashola, all to muddy up the subject just enough to cause doubt so you will continue spending your greenbacks with them.
Big Tabacco has used this technique very effectively for the last 50 years or so. You know…, the “It’s the couch’s fault your house caught on fire, not the cigarette” argument. This is why your couch is now full of fire-resistant material. The idea is to blame something/anything other than their product. I call it the “find a new villain technique.”
Simplifying Dilated Cardiomyopathy (DCM)
Many veterinarians (not all) and other experts in this arena use the term DCM as a catch-all to describe all heart disease (cardiac failure) in dogs. There are many forms of heart disease in our dogs:
- DCM [Dilated Cardiomyopathy]
- Hypertrophic Cardiomyopathy
- Restrictive Cardiomyopathy
- Congestive Heart Failure
- Myocardial Infarction
- Cardiomyopathy caused by Pulmonary Hypertension
However, the strict definition of DCM is a thinning and stretching of the heart muscle. To simplify this article, we’re going to divide these issues into two categories.
1. Thin, weak, overstretched cardiac muscle. Dilated Cardiomyopathy (DCM)
2. Thickening of the heart wall muscle, Hypertrophic Cardiomyopathy (HCM)
I already hear you asking: “But, but, but, what about my dog and DCM?”
Ok, let’s get to it.
DCM/HCM is simply (although truthfully, there is nothing simple about it) a stretching and/or thickening of the heart wall, which is a muscle. When the heart muscle is overstretched, weakened, and thin, this is classic DCM. Take a pair of nylon running shorts (Ok, stop picturing me in running shorts, it’s not a pretty sight). You can stretch them to a given distance, and they will bounce back, but if you over-stretch them, they will never regain the old shape again, which is the same for the heart.
You can also think of a person with large plugs in [gauges] their earlobes. Once you remove the plugs the earlobes don’t bounce back, right? They stay stretched out. Stretch the heart wall muscle of the left ventricle beyond its abilities to regain elasticity and EF drops precipitously.
There are potentially several causes for this stretching.
- First, a congenital defect could cause a weak, underdeveloped cardiac muscle that eventually dilates. This is much like stepping on a balloon and stretching the balloon wall.
- There can also be a nutrient deficiency causing poor heart muscle development (maybe a taurine deficiency).
- The heart muscle can also stretch in response to increased pressure in the arteries that the heart must pump against.
We’ll get back to this in a minute.
Thickening of the Cardiac Muscle
First, let’s talk about the thickening (Hypertrophic Cardiomyopathy) of the cardiac muscle.
Bigger muscles are better, right? (I have been trying to build big guns to impress my wife for over twenty-five years.) So yes, bigger muscles can lead to increased force and, therefore, improved performance, but a muscle needs to be able to elongate (stretch) before it can apply force.
For an extreme example, think about being in a straight jacket. You have the same muscles, but you can’t elongate those muscles to apply force. Does that make sense?
Or think about the classic muscle-bound bodybuilder. They have huge muscles, but they can’t apply as much force as you would think someone with that size of muscle should be able to produce (don’t get mad at me, bodybuilders…I’m just jealous). Imagine a big, built bodybuilder with huge biceps, chest, and forearms. They can’t bend their arms very well due to the enlarged muscles. Same thing with the heart. When the heart muscle (usually the left ventricle because it must pump to the entire body) thickens (and enlarges), it loses its ability to stretch or elongate and, therefore, cannot produce enough force to pump oxygenated blood to the body. This ejection fraction (EF) is the amount of blood the heart can eject in one contraction.
In humans, this decrease in EF is usually caused by a blockage in the cardiac blood flow, which damages the heart muscle and results in a significant decrease in EF. This is the classic heart attack, also known as a Myocardial Infarction (MI). It often results in a condition called congestive heart failure (CHF). I have treated hundreds of these patients over the years, and the prognosis has never been great.
In our furry four-legged friends, the issue is they don’t complain of chest pain, don’t call 911, and don’t get rushed off to the nearest ER to remove the blood clot. They endure the pain, we don’t detect the heart attack, and damage to the heart muscle ensues. This damage decreases the heart’s ability to pump (EF). The heart muscle often develops scar tissue and thickening (HCM) from the lack of oxygenated blood flow. In the DCM animal, a weak, overstretched heart cannot withstand this decrease in oxygen feeding the muscle. Over time, the damaged heart can’t supply enough blood to the body, and the animal succumbs.
Some potential genetic issues are happening here, as some specific breeds are at higher risk for DCM/HCM. It also seems that large-breed dogs have much higher incidents of both. That said, being genetically predisposed to an issue (DCM/HCM) is not usually the causative factor in whether your dog acquires that disease.
Factors Influencing Cardiomyopathy
In my humble opinion, there are three factors influencing cardiomyopathy in dogs. Let’s refer to them collectively as EOP.
- Excessive workload (HCM or DCM) of the left ventricle from pumping against excessive pressure in the vasculature produces a stretching of the heart muscle or compensatory growth (adaptive response).
- Overgrowth (HCM) of the heart wall muscle (left ventricle) due to hyperinsulinemia, IGF, MTOR stimulation and heart wall damage.
- Poor perfusion (MI) of the heart muscle and body due to vascular damage and inflammation.
All three factors are strongly influenced by diet. Dogs are carnivores and, therefore, don’t eat many carbohydrates in their wild environment (they don’t do much farming and cultivating). When we feed carbs to dogs (dog food manufacturers love carbs because they are extremely cheap and stable), they, much like humans, have a subsequent insulin response, and the circulating insulin spikes well beyond normal levels. This increase in circulating insulin can stay elevated for long periods, causing hyperinsulinemia and insulin resistance. Carbs bind all kibble; adding carbs is the only way to produce shelf-stable dry bits. However, it would help if you were careful: commercial wet, raw, or fresh food can still have carbs added (usually to decrease cost).
Hyperinsulinemia causes an inflammatory response throughout the body. It could be argued that the sugar (carbs) causes the inflammation, but that is really a chicken or the egg argument. This inflammation causes a very complex lesion, clotting, and atherosclerotic cascade in the vasculature. The blood vessels get swollen (just like your ankle does when you injure it). When the blood vessels swell, the inside of the vessels get smaller, and the residual pressure that the heart must pump against increases the heart's workload exponentially. As in our balloon example, the heart wall will then stretch (DCM) in response to these high vascular pressures. Step on the balloon, and the balloon will grow bigger, stretching and weakening the wall of the balloon. In the long run, this can also cause an adaptive response to an increased workload, increasing the size of the heart wall muscle (HCM). Remember, cardiomyopathy is an enlarged heart.
MTOR (Mammalian Target of Rapamycin)
Hyperinsulinemia also stimulates Insulin Growth Factor (IGF or IGF1), and IGF stimulates this thing we call MTOR (Mammalian Target Of Rapamycin). So why do we care? Well, MTOR is a nutrient sensor that, when stimulated, copies cells. In short, it tells the body to build more cells. MTOR is great when we are young and growing (i.e., puppies) or trying to build muscle, but it is not so great if we don’t want to overbuild heart muscle (also terrible if we are reproducing cancer cells). So, too much MTOR stimulation and/or too often builds too much heart muscle (HCM), especially if we overtax that heart muscle because it must work against increased pressure.
MTOR stimulation may be useful in the DCM animal to build heart muscle, but that stimulation should not come from insulin and carbs.
On top of the inflammation and MTOR stimulation, hyperinsulinemia causes the body to turn carbs/sugar into fat and send it to be stored. This converted sugar/fat is abrasive to the walls of the blood vessels, and it abrades the inside of the blood vessel. Think of a bottle brush cleaning out the inside of a long, skinny balloon. It is going to scratch and cause damage to the inner walls of the balloon. When you damage a vessel wall, the body sends cholesterol to fix the injury. Soon, you have cholesterol-laden plaque that builds up inside the vessel, further narrowing it. Consequently, it will increase the heart's workload and decrease the oxygenated blood supply to that very same heart muscle.
By the way, cholesterol is not the bad guy here. It is just trying to repair the damage caused by the carbs and hyperinsulinemia. Cholesterol is high when there is a lot of damage to the blood vessels. Saying cholesterol is bad is like saying firefighters are bad because they are always around when there are fires. Get it?
When Protein is the Bad Guy
“Ok…then carbs are bad and protein is good,” you say?
Not so fast! Protein is not an angel in this process. Dogs have a ZERO (yes, ZERO!) carbohydrate requirement. Dogs can live without carbs and be perfectly healthy, but they must have protein to survive. So, we must give them protein, but (it’s always the BUT that gets you) if you feed excessive amounts of protein, it goes through a process of gluconeogenesis (the protein turns to sugar), which stimulates IGF and insulin and well, we’re back to all the issues we talked about earlier.
The other issue with protein is that it’s a stimulator of MTOR, and MTOR tells the body, “Hey, we have plenty of building blocks, so let’s build stuff.” Consequently, we build more cardiac muscle cells, contributing to the HCM problem. Your animals should consume protein, so what is the answer? You have to read to the end to find out. Lol. (I don’t know if I can write lol in an article, but what the heck.)
As mentioned above, we discussed genetic issues and the problem of large-breed dogs having a higher rate of DCM/HCM. We need to consider the fact that the larger an animal is, the more MTOR stimulation it has. They must grow more cells than smaller animals. So, the fact that larger animals are more susceptible to HCM makes sense in a high MTOR stimulation environment.
The Role of Fat in the Diet
Okay, OK, OK, I hear you say…”I’ve got it! FAT! Just give them fat, no carbs, and no protein.”
You are correct…sort of. Fats are good and necessary and do not contribute to the abovementioned issues. Fats do not contribute to hyperinsulinemia, inflammation, MTOR stimulation, or vascular damage, but (there is that BUT again), if you heat fats, they oxidize (or rust). These oxidized fats cause a slew of cellular issues, not the least of which is inflammation, and there you go again down that pathway. By the way, the high heat processing of proteins doesn’t do us any favors either, and heating any macronutrient quickly removes much of the beneficial nutrient content.
We should address the taurine deficiency issue here while discussing heating proteins (most kibbles are heated four separate times). Taurine is an amino acid and, therefore, derived from protein. Taurine deficiency in cats causing DCM is real and has been largely solved by adding taurine and the taurine precursors methionine and cystine to cat foods. After identifying taurine deficiency issues in cats, the next logical step was to assume that taurine was the problem with dogs. While we shouldn’t discard all related taurine deficiency research, it doesn’t appear that this is the answer to our issues with DCM/HCM.
The number of animals with DCM/HCM with a taurine deficiency is relatively the same as those without. This may be partially because we lump all cardiomyopathies into the same bucket and are not doing a good job of teasing out which cardiac disease correlates to taurine deficiencies. You wouldn’t think at face value that HCM animals would have taurine deficiencies. Why did cats have a taurine deficiency? In my opinion, if you high-heat process your protein sources (kibble or cooked food), then the quality of the proteins decreases respectively, and…yep, you might have a taurine deficiency issue and DCM. If we want to cover this base for our dogs, let’s use quality protein sources AND not heat process them. A taurine supplement may be helpful if we can’t afford quality raw protein sources.
Optimal Diet for Dogs
“Ok, then I give up!” I hear you yell. “I’m just never gonna feed my dog ever again!” Not so fast. Here is a summary of the issues:
- There are too many carbs for dogs, who don’t eat carbs in the wild. (No, they have not adapted in the last 100 years, and grain-free doesn’t mean carb-free. Grain-free pet foods commonly have more carbs than grain-based foods.)
- Too much protein, or protein too often, stimulates MTOR, gluconeogenesis, and inflammation.
- Oxidized proteins cause loss of nutrients and amino acids (taurine), and oxidized fats from high heat processing cause inflammation and vascular and cellular damage.
So, here’s what science suggests we do:
- Get rid of the carbs and feed a fresh food diet without added carbs as fillers. If you feed any carbs, your animal should benefit directly from that carb, i.e., antioxidants, vitamins, minerals, fiber, etc.
- Do not overfeed protein. Protein should be fed in an amount to maintain quality muscle mass. Some suggest feeding protein at 0.75-1.0 grams per pound of body weight. The less you heat or process protein, the less protein you must feed to maintain quality muscle mass. *
- Feed once a day to allow MTOR stimulation to happen only once daily. Dogs don’t eat three times a day in the wild. They make a kill, gorge themselves and then they do not eat for several days. Feeding multiple times a day is stimulating MTOR every time they eat. Consequently, cells (good and bad cells) are reproducing multiple times daily. Also, each time you give your dog a food treat, MTOR is firing up and making cells, so don’t treat your dog as it creates the same issues. *
- Only feed fats and proteins that have not been heat-processed. The best diet is fresh, raw, and balanced. How many dogs do you see cooking their food in the wild? Exactly.
- Ensure your animal gets plenty of exercise and activity, as it helps burn any sugar/carbs circulating in the bloodstream and helps decrease insulin activity.
*Recommendations #2 and #3 should not be followed with puppies or animals under 18 months of age.
So, Is Your Dog Going to Get DCM or HCM?
If you continue to feed carbohydrate-laden foods that are high-heat processed with oxidized fats and proteins, overfeed proteins, and feed/treat them too often, the probability of heart issues is significantly higher. But we have options. Let’s take those options and improve our animals’ health and decrease the chances that a devastating disease strikes our furry friends.
Just a quick note: If your animal has been clearly diagnosed with DCM and not HCM, then there may be a role for feeding smaller amounts of quality protein multiple times a day to stimulate MTOR more often (without stimulating IGF and insulin) to give the heart the building blocks it needs. There is also some emerging information that ketones improve EF and cardiac efficiency and, may benefit both DCM and HCM animals. If the body uses carbs for fuel, it will not make ketones, but if the body gets the correct amount of protein and fat, it will produce ketones.
Don’t let the junk pet food manufacturers (McDonald's of pet food) sell you that DCM/HCM is an issue of taurine, boutique pet food manufactures, or a lack of grains in your pet’s diet. We should look at all possible issues, starting with a good foundation. It might be correct to say that I got my ONE abdominal muscle in the middle of my tummy from a vitamin C deficiency, but I would suspect it was all the pizza, fast food, and soda I have consumed over the years. Go figure. Manufacturers always want to add something to solve an issue and never want to remove something. You can’t sell something you remove or take away. In the 1800’s we saw deficiencies in our diets. In 2019, we have issues of excess! The problem is they can’t sell you more of something you are already buying too much of. How will they increase market share?
That’s all I’ve got for now. Remember, it is just my humble opinion. I am not a vet, I don’t play one on TV, and this isn’t medical advice (I think I covered all needed disclaimers, lol). For full transparency, I own a raw pet food company that my wife and I started after we lost our third dog to cancer and needed to find a solution to the cancer issue [that serves an area of Southern California]. Feel free to contact me if you have any questions or if I can help.
~ Joe Powell, Joe@vibrantk9.com
About Joseph Powell (Author)
- Joe has been in pre-hospital emergency medicine for over 35 years. Joe is the EMS Chief for the City of Rialto Fire Department.
- He has been published in the Journal of Emergency Medical Services and the Western Journal of Emergency Medicine multiple times.
- He owns 2 US patents that he wrote.
- Joe started a study five years ago at his fire department on cardiac survivability in CPR patients. Due to his ongoing study, he has one of, if not the highest cardiac arrest survival rates in the world. Joe lectures on the study, as well as heart, cardiac issues, and cardiac arrest survival across the US and internationally.
- Joe has lectured in six countries, and many cities in the US in the last few years teaching his equation for cardiac arrest and survival in a CPR status.
Additional Reading on DCM in Dogs
I'm finding more experts (veterinarians experienced in heart issues) who state that (1) DCM is not just related to dogs fed a grain-free diet, (2) “Most dogs being diagnosed with DCM do not have low taurine levels.” ~ Dr. Lisa Freeman, and (3) dogs fed a raw diet have been diagnosed with DCM too.
- Grain-Free Diets and DCM, The Raw Feeding Community
- Bad Science and Big Business are Behind the Biggest Pet Food Story in a Decade, Daniel Schulof of KetoNatural Pet Foods
- It’s Not Just Grain-Free: An Update on Diet-Associated Dilated Cardiomyopathy, Dr. Lisa Freeman*
- Echocardiographic Phenotype of Canine Dilated Cardiomyopathy Differs Based on Diet Type, Journal of Veterinarian Cardiology
2020 Updates on DCM in Dogs
- 2020 Update: FDA Finds No Evidence that Grain-Free Diets Cause Canine Heart Disease
- 2020 Update: FDA Finds No Evidence that Grain-Free Diets Are Causing Canine Dilated Cardiomyopathy (DCM)
“Dr. Freeman has received research funding or provided sponsored lectures or consulting services for Royal Canin, Nestlé Purina PetCare, and Hill’s Pet Nutrition.”
Source: Scopus Preview/American Journal of Veterinary Research
DCM Class Action Lawsuit
In February 2024, a $2.6 billion class action lawsuit was filed against Hill's Pet Nutrition, its research foundations, and other parties, alleging that Hill's-affiliated veterinarians (Dr. Lisa Freeman, Dr. Darcy Adin, Dr. Joshua Stern (who commented on this article), and Dr. John Rush.) induced the FDA's DCM investigation fraudulently. The lawsuit also claims Hill's used a coordinated misinformation campaign to scare dog owners away from nontraditional diets. The suit also names the Morris Animal Foundation and Mark Morris Institute as defendants.
Other parties include Dr Lisa Freeman, Dr. Darcy Adin, Dr. Joshua Stern (who commented on this article), and Dr. John Rush.
Hi Jake…thanks for the comment and I’d be really interested in learning about the results of the echocardiogram. I’m sorry for your most recent loss and I hope the check ups on the other dogs go well.
Thank you for the information and kind words.
Kimberly, your blog has been an incredible source of useful information! While I have been feeding raw for 15 years, a lack of nutrient education lead me to feed “high quality” (or is it just high dollar?) on Monday, Wedensday and Friday-the thought being that would add nutrients I may have missed with raw on the other four days. Sounds silly now-I AM on full raw now..
I am getting echocardiograms done on two of my dogs next month. I got my 12 year old at age 2 and my 9 year old at age 8. They are both showing signs of DCM…but full disclosure…they are Boxers and Boxers are known to have a high incidence of DCM.
I will share the results next month.
Also, I lost two Boxers this year.
One was 15 and was diagnosed with oral cancer at age 4-I got him at age 2, had his jaw removed and he lived 12 more years-no chemo or radiation, no other health issues…just died from being old and tired.
The other was a 12 year old white Boxer whom we raised from puppyhood. He was a sun worshipper for sure. He was diagnosed with hemangiosarcoma. We waited it out until his RBC-tested weekly-was so low we knew euthanizing was the kinder option than waiting for spleen to rupture.
I think your guest op-ed provides some interesting insight. For those not comfortable with comparing human issues and animal issues, I would urge them to educate themselves on all the Beagle’s being tortured in laboratories throughout the nation to test the safety and efficacy of human products.
I think your blog and vlog provide a wealth of opinions that can culminate into valuable information when we begin to look at ALL dogs as individuals.
Thank you so much!
Thank you for clarifying. I have only read part of the report because, initially, I didn’t think it applied to me as a raw feeder. Now I know better. In your comment, you stated that “93+% of affected dogs ate a food containing legumes,” without qualifying that these are only dogs mentioned in the FDA report. Therefore, I thought you meant all dogs diagnosed with DCM.
Kimberly
The fda report (you should read the whole thing including the 79 pages of foods) assembled cardiologist diagnosed ndcm cases from multi sources (UC Davis, nc University, veterinary submissions)
Of those cases assembled 93+% ate a food containing peas or lentils
Every single ndcm case(cardiologist diagnosed) I’ve seen in the food groups the dogs have been eating a legume containing food with only two exceptions.those two are a food whose first ingredient was potato
I have a food group on Facebook called no peas for me that I created because of what I was seeing
The fact that many dogs get well when just switched to a no legume containing food is significant also
Making ndcm very different from heritable dcm
Hi Diane…while I respect that you disagree with this opinion, I think I have more faith in the average pet parent. This blog post states clearly that this is an opinion along with several others written both on websites and on social media. I believe that at this time, pet parents are clearly aware that DCM has many causes, every dog is unique, and there needs to be more studies to narrow down why we’re seeing DCM, which is why I also included further reading.
As to your claim that diet is the cause of more than 93% of dogs developing DCM, I am writing to ask if you can please provide the documentation that states that this is the case. There is a great discussion happening on Facebook on this topic that includes a lot of links to veterinarian written articles and none have mentioned this disturbing percentage.
Thank you.
Guy is aclueless wonder
Nutritional mediated dcm is a real condition
It was originally thought to be connected to blood taurine levels but now they know it’s not
Dogs with ndcm are getting better in many cases simply by changing the diet with or without taurine and supplements
That clearly makes it s food problem
Not only that but 93+% of affected dogs ate a food containing legumes
Not coincidence
I’m with josh stern above I’m afraid people will read this and think it’s factual when it’s not
For anyone following along with this fantastic discussion. Please note that the website shared for people to gain information promotes kibble diets as appropriate for dogs and the veterinarians are not what many would call raw-feeder-friendly. This shouldn’t discourage you from seeking information, however, it’s important to understand that you may be told to switch to a dry dog food that you may not want to feed to your dog.
If you would prefer to seek information from raw feeding friendly, holistic veterinarians also experienced in educating people about canine health, including heart issues, here are my sources:
Dr. Cathy Alinovi – https://healthypawsibilities.com/
Dr. Laurie Coger – https://healthydogworkshop.com/consultations/
Dr. Alinovi is the veterinarian who helped me make the decision to transition to raw which saved the life of one of my dogs. She also helped me transition to DIY raw feeding, which saved me money and made it easier for me to control the ingredients and feed a balanced diet (I balance to NRC, not AAFCO – which is for kibble and not raw/holistic friendly, see Susan Thixton of Truth About Pet Food to learn more).
Dr. Coger hosts the annual Healthy Dog Expo, offers meal formulation consultations, and has been a wealth of knowledge as I’ve traversed this journey of learning how to raise my dogs naturally. Dr. Coger also reviews nutrient analysis testing, including the one I do for my four dogs.
As stated in the original post, this is an opinion piece and serves to spark discussion, not to diagnose dogs. Please seek advice from a qualified integrative veterinarian.
Joe et al…. the entirety of your physiologic discussion of cardiac disease is incorrect in dogs. Most importantly you seem very confused to think that HCM is even a disease in the dog. When cardiologists see HCM in the dog it is incredibly rare and certainly not associated with large breed dogs. I’m terrified that pet parents will read this and think that it’s sensical. As a veterinarian, veterinary cardiologist, geneticist and educator I urge people to seek out an actual expert when looking for this information.
Dr Stern
PS. A site like taurinedcm.org would be a good place for people to read.
Hey Doc,
I would love to hear your input on this issue and what is causing and the effective treatment of DCM and the more prominent HCM. If we could get a good discussion going maybe everyone can learn. Feel free to hit me up at Joe@vibrantk9.com or post here.
Mary, this is one opinion on what’s going on. I gave you Joe’s email – have you contacted him about your concerns? As I’ve seen as I follow these discussions, there are many reasons that we are seeing DCM. It can be related to diet (a taurine deficiency, lack of amino acids) and it can be related to genetics. Or it can be both. I’ve seen people recommending just adding taurine to the diet, whether it be kibble or raw. I’ve seen people say that there is no way to prevent or cure DCM. As I see it, there are a lot of opinions and Joe is sharing his, the difference being that he, at least, has experience in heart/cardiac issues. Yes, his career is in human medicine, but his business is in dog food, he has several dogs, and he is experienced in research and medicine which is more than I can say for myself and many people out there sharing unfounded opinions.
As I stated on Facebook, if you have an alternate opinion/theory on the cause of DCM, I welcome hearing about it. I’m hear to learn because given what I’ve learned so far, despite being raw fed, my dogs are at risk too.
Can you please expand on the inaccuracies? As I stated in the introduction, if you disagree, please expand on what Joe got wrong so that we can all learn. You state that we should read anything by an actual scientist, however, that’s confusing as well. Some say it’s the amino acids in foods, it’s the legumes in grain-free diets, it’s genetics – well, what is it? All of it, none of it? So I agreed to publish Joe’s thoughts to spark discussion hoping that people would start sharing unbiased, factual information or educated theories on why dogs are developing heart disease. So far, I’ve been told not to listen to this camp because they’re in the pocket of big pet food, while another camp doesn’t have the scientific background to speak on the topic.
I have five dogs and the thought that any of them could develop DCM is frightening and, so far, from what I’ve been reading, Joe is making sense. But I’m not a scientist or a veterinarian, so I can only go by what others are sharing.
So, Dr. Stern, please share with me what you find inaccurate. And if you don’t feel that you need to help me understand, which I respect, I implore you to reach out to Joseph Powell and open a dialogue with him – joe@vibrantk9.com. We need to get this information out there because dogs are dying.
Wow! A human cardiologist commenting on canine heart issues. And you fail to differentiate between genetic DCM and nutritionally mediated DCM. That’s a tad irresponsible and misleading, don’t you think? And you think cholesterol and fasting dogs is going to impact on canine heart health? You, sir, are dangerous to dogs.
Watched this morning before heading out to church. So sorry I didn’t see it live – you know me, I had questions. It was a fascinating interview, one that I’d like to talk to you about once I get this widget up. So many myths out there, and not enough people sharing documented expert advice. Thank you so much for setting up the interview and writing this piece. I am now super interested in researching more about fasting the Boys. I never did – never thought about it. I now have some homework to do because everything ain’t always best for everybody – dogs included. But it makes (shall we say) PAWfect sense LOL Take care my friend, always learn so much “picking up what you put down” Be blessed…
This article demonstrates not even the most basic understanding of canine heart disease or the issue at hand of nutritionally mediated DCM. Read virtually anything by an actual scientist for a better understanding of this disease. The disclosures at the bottom of this article don’t even come close to covering the dangerous inaccuracies of this blog.